Serious Threat to Web in Italy
By now, you might have heard about the ruling in Italy, whereby three Google employees were convicted of violating Italian privacy laws for a video posted to Google Video in 2006. Because this is an issue of critical importance to all of us here at Google, particularly at YouTube, we wanted to direct readers of this blog to the Official Google Blog post on the matter: "Serious threat to Web in Italy."
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God they are crazy
Google being convicted for privacy issues?
That needs to happen more often. Google's current privacy policy is a complete invasion of privacy.
Leave Google alone! What did he ever do to you?!
What about the blocking of torrent sites in Italy?
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The video was removed! Why should the Google employees have to take the blame for it? This is wrong.
To inability to understand the human right of freedom to access of the internet (and therefore information) amazes me. That, and blaming 4 company men who had absolutely nothing to do with the issue is, in my opinion, stupidity. To be honest, Google should leave Italy (as well as China) and continue business in the more open minded world.
Oh suddenly Google cares about freedom? They should have thought about that before they began to offer an extremely censored version of Google in China.
I hope Google and YouTube will learn their lesson that you have to take action when videos violate human dignity. I know, that is something Americans don't value, but the rest of the world care about that.
this is indeed frightening. If I cannot upload a video of someone beating up an autistic "child" in a european country, then what future for amerika?
This is a terrifying legal decision that could change the face of the web. If this becomes legal precedent in Italy, social networking companies will have no choice but to block Italians from their websites. Appeal!
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Have the judge heard of automation before?
And what Arekay said...
Well initially this smacks as a blow against freedom.
HOWEVER, since YouTube has just seen fit to remove the link to Community Guidelines on all pages, they obviously want to have this sort of problem to fight.
Of course Google indemnifies its employees against such individual actions, hm?!
As you sew, so shall ye reap.
Get with it YT - if you don't take community concerns seriously, then this kind of action is precisely the kind of outcome you can expect.
Stop being so damn arrogant, do better or expect to be taken to task.
@YT - it is noted that it isn't possible to comment directly upon the article you linked to.
@djsjr - Yes, Google are crazy to think that just because they're working in the internet space, they can do whatever they like with no regard to the impacts.
@mightylions1 - it is required that someone takes responsibility for YT's policies.
@Arekay - Following your logic to its conclusion, Google should permit publication of detailed nuclear bomb and poison making instructions and no staff should be held responsible for any decision that allows it to happen.
Your point of view is naive.
Evidently the judge considered that the staff in question had some culpability, hence their conviction.
Or should any company working in the internet space have carte blanche to do anything they like in the name of "the human right of freedom to access the internet"?
Some standards can and should be expected and when a company doesn't do enough, it is absolutely right that the societies within which they both work and impact take action where appropriate.
@PeterTechGuy - doubtless the judge had both had heard of and demonstrated greater understanding of automation than you seem to.
You can automate slaughter of humans.
It doesn't make it right!
So who takes responsibility for automated systems?
It must be the companies who own (and commercially exploit!) the automation.
If you want to automate a system, ensure that it is robust, aye!
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Everybody in youtube are great in censoring a song or to find copyrights and blablabla (which should be part of the internet freedom) but less when some people apparteing to the "class with no voice" appear hardly beated from some stupids tough guy!
What if YOU,guys, one of you here , were the parent of the down syndrome guy beated?
Or if you'll discover yourself on youtube with the finger on your nose or when you do wee just because your friend thinks it's funny?????
Respect for the dignity of the human being , the integrity, should be taken seriously in all the world, no matter to open or closed mind!
Reflect before to talk!
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How far could all this go if this situation succeeds? Several analogies come to mind (not perfect, analogies never are) helping one to see if the rational of this idea is valid or at least going in the right direction:
Are the people responsible for operating the Telephone companies or the Postal Systems now the ones responsible for someone using it for libel, extortion, blackmail and kidnapping?
In addition, would this mean someone doing criminal activity assisted by an automobile, make those responsible for the construction and maintenance of highways, toll booths, gas stations and cars, responsible the crime?
Perhaps we could convict the people for the crimes they committed because they voted to put into office the official doing a crime (such as bribery or adultery--or worse).
Yes, somewhat silly; however, I can change if there's something about all of this I'm missing, but taken in the extreme, this appears to be of the kill-the-messenger mindset.
There was this guy who believed very much in true love and decided to take his time to wait for his right girl to appear.
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Hi! I'm Italian and I want to express my total and complete solidarity to Google.
Unfortunately in Italy has been ongoing for some years an attempt at censorship for the control of free opinions on the Internet.
The italian politicians seek to pass laws to eliminate anonymity online,
to prevent the introduction of textual content, images, video,
without first to identify himself with name and surname (decree "Carlucci").
There have been attempts to equate blogs, forums, Citizen Journalism
to traditional newspapers. (decree "Levi"). (In Italy to write on the printed newspaper journalists have to be enrolled in a special professional association called "Ordine dei giornalisti" and the newspapers must be registered in a public register called "Roc"... there is also obligation to appoint the chief of the newspaper .. etc..)
Recently they tried to push through the "Romani decree"
that wants to introduce a requirement of ministerial approval for live streaming and websites that contain video as if they were TV shows.
Also they want to introduce a requirement of correction for forums and blogs within 48 hours if comments bring back wrong informations, and the request for compensation in case this does not happen (decree interceptions).
Finally, there is the law D'Alia which provides the blackout of entire sites, forums, blogs, social networks when there is one comment or video offensive.
We, "Italians netcitizen", we ask for your help so that attempts to censor the Web in Italy not be successful...
We ask you to mobilize to make known this reality....
Italy is getting closer to China ... Thanks ....!!!!
To keep you updated about attempts censorship in Italy there is the site:
http://dirittoallarete.ning.com/
or also
http://www.agoradigitale.org
http://www.apogeonline.com/filirossi/leggi-internet
http://www.punto-informatico.it
Helpful articles:
http://interno18.it/attualita/12423/la-censura-diventa-legge-approvato-lemendamento-del-senatore-dalia-internet-verra-re
http://italianspot.wordpress.com/2009/02/18/censura-internet-italia-berlusconi-censura-internet-con-il-disegno-di-legge-carlucci-2195/
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